Cruise Control Delete?

[Merch]

Hi everyone, I have a 1998 voyager XII and am going to delete the cruise control. I’ve got the complete wiring diagram from the 86 and 87 supplement service manuals and have already removed everything for an engine paint job. It’s down to just the engine and frame. I’ll be putting the harness back on soon and am curious if anyone has ever done this and what issues might arise, if any that affect the performance / operation of the bike.

I did order a longer Pull cable for the carb in advance since the stock one is divided into 2 separate pieces on a drum where it attaches to the solenoid / actuator (I believe that’s the name). As of right now all components have been removed and disconnected. Will I need to blank off any plugs or complete any circuits for normal operation?

I’m curious if I can remove the entire system much like the audio system I removed since it was way too heavy. I’m trimming down weight on the bike of anything unnecessary like the big heavy luggage/ speakers / tape player/ antenna / CB / etc.. to lighten the load. Hope this clarifies my intentions. Thank you for any help

[Nails]

You'll probably also want to dump the cruise cancel switch on the carburetor assembly. It can be problematic anyway, giving a somewhat indirect attachment to the throttle. I suspect you could simplify this assembly somehow -- probably making it a lot easier to get the carburetors out.

I'm with you, getting rid of the radio &etc, as well as the trunk. I remember seeing a frankenbike here that also replaced the fairing with a windshield and the saddlebags with leather (as I remember). (I'm not sure there'd be much left to hide, if you dumped the cruise before dumping the fairing.) It looked like a great commuter.

But I stopped short of nuking the cruise because I'd have a hard time living without it; and I don't think it weighs all that much anyway. (It can be a PITA to adjust.) I added a Vista Cruise throttle lock for if/when the cruise should fail (it did), or when I want to quickly do something with my right hand. I'm suggesting this as a cheap/light alternative to cruise.

[Merch]

Thanks for the response. I did remove that switch when I was cleaning the carbs, I think I noticed one on the brake too, I’ll check the diagram to make sure.

I’m going on a road trip for a month this July and always just use the handlebar type cruise control and didn’t feel very confident in this particular system. Each of the luggage bags empty weighs the same as my waterproof stuff sack filled with gear so it’s an easy choice to swap those out.

The equipment for the cruise control so far weighs the same as the tent I’m bringing, so eliminating it basically nullified the weight of it. This is how I think about it, I know most don’t but I would like a final weight under 800, as opposed to starting there.

So far I’ve been tracing the diagram and it does seem to connect to the turn signal relay I believe, but it’s just on paper and I need to verify by starting it up again this weekend. I’m in the assembly phase now.

[Nails]

In the Supplemental Manual, you'll find a table of cruise control diagnostic checks. These are electrical checks on one of the multi-plugs to the cruise module, under the left fairing. This might be the best list of all the switches &etc involved.

[Merch]

This is where I was at at the height of disassembly / cleaning. I’ll make sure to upload pictures of any issues I see so it’s easier to understand what I’m talking about. Thanks nails I’m going over that checklist and will let you know what I find out

[Merch]

This throttle pull cable is a perfect fit to replace the stock cam style one that has the housing mounted on the valve cover. (To Delete the housing and make it one continuous cable as opposed to 3 cables)
I’m very surprised it fit so well since no length is given in the description. Just that it went to a Kawasaki Vulcan.
Pull cable P/N: 03-0140
Manufacturer : Motion Pro
Price: 16$ USD
The sticker covers the original part number and may be a different stock number of the same PN but I’m not 100% on that.

[Merch]

So far removing the cruise control has been very straight forward and here are the major components involved, Minus a couple switches and hardware. Also the locations where they were under the fairings.

Im currently waiting on the fuel tank liner to cure (96hrs), the tank had a little surface rust on the inside, and then I will start it up and see if there are any electrical issues due to component removal. Ive been checking plugs and connections with a multi meter during re-installation in accordance with the service manual and so far all checks are good

[Nails]

Good work!

I've found that the crowd around here isn't much into hacks, as you and I have done. But as was explained to me, it's your ride and you get the final say whether it's good.

Personally, I think XII look too much like golf carts, and they include a bunch of "luxuries" that should interfere with the ride. I say "should" because, against all odds, they actually handle great even in stock trim. You'll surely like canyon carving on yours.

I de-badged and painted mine (hiding some ABS repairs) and dumped silly weight like the sound system (why would I want to add to the high-noise environment?), trunk (yeah handy, but way too gangley), and floorboards (that made my feet too far apart). As mentioned, I kept the cruise, mostly because I live in the mountains.

Like all these kinds of threads, YMMV. But I wish I could take yours for a spin, when you finish it.