1995 Revival

[ekap1200]

Hello 2wrems, Who's fuel line did you use ? I just replaced mine with line purchased from motion-pro. It is the exact same size and comes in grey. Also purchased the OEM molded hose. It's been 20 years and , yes , it did show signs of being at the end of its life. It was just a bit spongy .
Be careful not to pinch the fuel hose / and the coolant recovery hose as you install the tank. And make sure the clamp on the tank is facing to the side, low air in the rear shocks can bottom out, and the swing arm comes up VERY close to the bottom of the tank on a severe bump. I had one here a few years back and the elbow was bent and kinked.
I see your doing a great job, and you should be trouble free when you done.
?- when you installed the front end , did you inspect the inserts in the fender ? They will crush out in time and bear down on the plastic. Cracking the fender can be a pain, and expensive.
Gene Kap.

[2wrems]

Hello 2wrems, Who's fuel line did you use ? I just replaced mine with line purchased from motion-pro. It is the exact same size and comes in grey. Also purchased the OEM molded hose. It's been 20 years and , yes , it did show signs of being at the end of its life. It was just a bit spongy .
Be careful not to pinch the fuel hose / and the coolant recovery hose as you install the tank. And make sure the clamp on the tank is facing to the side, low air in the rear shocks can bottom out, and the swing arm comes up VERY close to the bottom of the tank on a severe bump. I had one here a few years back and the elbow was bent and kinked.
I see your doing a great job, and you should be trouble free when you done.
?- when you installed the front end , did you inspect the inserts in the fender ? They will crush out in time and bear down on the plastic. Cracking the fender can be a pain, and expensive.
Gene Kap.

I like using the high temp silicone hose. I replaced the small vacuum hose to the ignitor box. The "filter" that was inline is long gone, there was just a tiny plastic sleeve connecting the two lines together to avoid a possible problem of that coming apart I am just running one new long piece. Some of the fuel line around the fuel pump i am not replacing. It still seems ok. The piece from the tank to the fuel filter, and from the pump to the carbs i put some of the silicone fuel line in. I had a bunch from a previous project that i'm using. It's semi clear/ yellowish.

Now that you mention the elbow, it does maybe look like the elbow leaving the tank took an impact. I bent it slightly and also put it in the vise to try to crimp the kink out the other direction. While cleaning i checked to see if it still flowed good and it does.

I didn't really inspect the fender inserts. Is there anything that can be done to prevent the crushing?

I greatly appreciate all the help guys. My first motorcycle was a 2006 KLX250S Dual sport. I had that bike until 2018, it was a 250cc and i put a bigger cylinder and piston on it to make it a 350cc. I also did just about everything you could do to it. Suspension, carb tuning. I have a 1998 KLR650 that i also made a 685cc and have done suspension on. My second most recent purchase is a 2008 650 Versys. I know the value of people that know specific models inside and out. A few other older honda street bikes.

[SgtSlag]

I had a 1979 750K (pictures in the link, when I put her up for sale): Vindicator fairing, Lowers (Goldwing model, cut to fit the CB750K), similar trunk to your's, soft saddlebags, and a thermostat controlled Oil Cooler, with a spin-on filter adapter. She was a beauty! Sold her off two years after we got the Voyager: it was dry-rotting in my garage, as we loved the Voyager so much, we never rode the Honda anymore. I still miss that bike. It was like riding a fighter jet, after riding the Voyager: so light, and much more nimble. The KZ440 LTD was even more nimble, and lightweight -- I mostly missed my turns because I was literally LOL'ing in my helmet, having sooo much fun riding it, flying through the soft-butter gear shifting on it (6-speed).

Don't get me wrong. I love our Voyager. It is just in a different class than my previous two bikes. Each has their charm, each was fun, within their class. I prefer the Voyager, as we like to ride long distances, and she is designed for that, with comfort, power, and fun... Cheers!

[Nails]

Some of the fuel line around the fuel pump i am not replacing. It still seems ok.

I found that the hard plastic pipes between carburetors were badly eroded. My problems were only in overflow drain lines, but I was still surprised by the holes. Plastic and rubber bits just don't live as long as these bikes have been around, especially if they've had solvents like gasoline and oil in them. Replace them one and all.

[Nails]

I had a 1979 750K

A decade newer: https://santafe.craigslist.org/mcy/d/sa ... 97306.html

[GrandpaDenny]

Naw, not the same as a CB750K at all. I once watched a full-dress 750K going through the MSF course, designed for baby bikes. It was, indeed, a thing of beauty. Like an empress, lifting her skirts a little and dancing her heart out. This was back in the 80s, when 750s were considered big. The Nighthawk is a completely different, and in my opinion ugly, animal.

[SgtSlag]

That 750 was found by my wife. She only had an inkling of what style bike I was looking for. She nailed it! I love the classic, APJB design, the spoked wheels, and the Windjammer/Vindicator fairing. That bike was exactly what I was hoping to find, at that time.

I've read a lot of pooh-pooh comments on the Windjammer fairings: "ugly as sin," "big, clumsy, and ugly," etc. If you have ever ridden in a headwind/crosswind, with a fairing mounted to your handlebars, and later rode behind a frame-mounted fairing, all of that so-called "ugly"-ness falls away. A handlebar-mounted fairing is a wind sail, attached to your handlebars, pulling hard against your arms, attempting to steer your bike for you! Personally, I love the Windjammers, especially with the Lowers attached: a genuine pleasure to ride in the rain, as they kept your legs mostly dry, and mostly out of the wind.

Once I dialed in that 750, I was set! I had my dream bike, or so I thought. Then we began long distance touring, and the 750's shortcomings, became very apparent. We rode her, two up, circling Lake Superior: mid-50's, and rain, every day in Canada... It was miserably cold, and wet. Our gear was low quality, the conditions were terrible, but that then-30-years-old bike rode, and ran, flawlessly. It was our most memorable tour, to date. I want to repeat it on the Voyager, but the wife wants to see other sites. I get her point, but I'd love to re-create that experience again -- hopefully without the cold rains!

Craig Vetter changed motorcycling forever. His frame-mounted fairing designs altered the course of motorcycling forever. He is directly responsible for the touring bikes designed in the mid- to late-70's. His Windjammer designs were brilliant. When Honda began making their own versions, and attached them to their Goldwing bikes, the dedicated touring bike was truly birthed. Kawasaki followed suit, along with Suzuki, Yamaha, and even Harley Davidson.

Craig is still alive, still making designs. He is a friendly fellow to communicate with. I've exchanged a few messages with him, in the past decade. He is a very decent human being, based on my personal experiences. Having ridden many a time, in head-, cross-, and tail-winds, I genuinely appreciate his ingenious designs. Under windy conditions, I just steer the bike, leaning into the wind, as necessary; I do not need to maintain a death-grip on the handlebars, fighting the wind, every second.

I admit it: I am a fan-boy of the Vetter Windjammer/Vindicator, and his Silverwing fairing, for 400cc bikes, and smaller. Had a Silverwing (frame mounted, as well) on my 440 -- loved it! Rode my 440 in a terrible cross-wind, right after I finished mounting the Silverwing: I was riding 20-30 degrees over, going straight, due to the high wind conditions! My arms were relaxed, and the bike drove straight. If I would have had a sail/kite attached to the handlebars, I would never had ridden in that wind. The Voyager is the same, thanks to Craig Vetter. Cheers!

[Nails]

Naw, not the same as a CB750K at all. I once watched a full-dress 750K going through the MSF course, designed for baby bikes. It was, indeed, a thing of beauty. Like an empress, lifting her skirts a little and dancing her heart out. This was back in the 80s, when 750s were considered big. The Nighthawk is a completely different, and in my opinion ugly, animal.

I also had an early 70's CB750 -- the short wheelbase models. And same era 550. I did well with the riding tests on my '75 Goldwing, a bagger with a simple windshield. (It wasn't a sail and did just fine in cross-winds.)

There are plenty of modern bikes with geometry compromises toward nimble handling and away from touring tractability. The XII is about as far as you can get from "mtn-bike" steering geometry.

From a recent discussion with a biker friend: much of what we want, I think, is a bike with a lot of moped-ness: a light-weight scooter with classic charm, like a Royal Enfield or old BSA. Or, my weakness, a peppy d/s (not being a slave to "classic charm"; and about as close as you can get to mtn-bike geometry).

But I still think y'all are homeboys -- a lot of your sentiment is from the fact that you aren't much like your 70's model, either.

I recently bought an actual Honda Silverwing. I'll put a small batwing fairing on it -- don't even want a humongous frame fairing. That's what my XII is for. I want to retain at least some of the Sushiguzzi's moped-ness.

[2wrems]

Got the tank lining done today. Excited to get it back together.

[Nails]

You're first post was only a month ago. I'm much slower than that.

[2wrems]

You're first post was only a month ago. I'm much slower than that.

It's amazing how much you can get done working a couple hours a day. One of the reasons i got it was for a winter project, my buddy says i better slow down i'm going to have it done and still have 2 months of winter left. It's hard for me though, I enjoy working on them as much as riding them. This one will be cool knowing that it had one wheel in the junk yard and i brought it back to life and hopefully get many more years of riding in it. I am a cyclist too. Road, gravel, mountain bike, whatever kind. I live in Pittsburgh area, the ground hasnt frozen yet. Once it freezes you can mountain bike on it, but the 30s daily high temps suck. Everything is too sloppy to ride in the woods, and its too cold to ride on the roads. This has been keeping me busy though. Hopefully ill be able to do some more pedaling soon. Last year i had more miles on bicycles than i did on motorcycles.

[Nails]

Nice.

I only have an outdoor workspace, but I hope to have a shop soon. I'd been working on it as hard as I can, right up until I broke one wrist and dislocated the other shoulder falling off a ladder. (Only fell 4' -- getting old sucks!)

But I'm optimistic I'll soon be able to advance two bike projects: the aforementioned Sushiguzzi and a KLR 250. The new shop will include a lift table embedded in the floor.

I also have an old dog, which is my excuse for not riding a splendid old Rockhopper. (I used to ride a ton.) Patches doesn't like being left behind, so I mostly hike a short trail on the mesa that literally starts in my backyard. And I live just a nine-iron from a preeminent facility, https://www.mtbproject.com/directory/8017420/glorieta. It's a New-Year-resolution scale issue.

But one thing's fersure-- my wrist isn't nearly ready for handlebars of any kind.

[cushman eagle]

Nice.

I only have an outdoor workspace, but I hope to have a shop soon. I'd been working on it as hard as I can, right up until I broke one wrist and dislocated the other shoulder falling off a ladder. (Only fell 4' -- getting old sucks!)

But I'm optimistic I'll soon be able to advance two bike projects: the aforementioned Sushiguzzi and a KLR 250. The new shop will include a lift table embedded in the floor.

I also have an old dog, which is my excuse for not riding a splendid old Rockhopper. (I used to ride a ton.) Patches doesn't like being left behind, so I mostly hike a short trail on the mesa that literally starts in my backyard. And I live just a nine-iron from a preeminent facility, https://www.mtbproject.com/directory/8017420/glorieta. It's a New-Year-resolution scale issue.

But one thing's fersure-- my wrist isn't nearly ready for handlebars of any kind.

Nails,I am glad that is all you damaged, it could have been worse

[GrandpaDenny]

Ouch! Nails, when did that happen? Yeah, we all discover as we get older that not only do we get hurt more easily, but it hurts more and for longer, too. Speedy recovery, my friend.

[Nails]

I appreciate it.

Neighbors really stepped up for me. My County Commissioner got here first, put all my tools away, locked up my house, moved my old pickup out of the way, and she even put a face mask on me (I couldn't do it) for the ambulance folks. Another neighbor who saw the ambulance brought me dinner when she saw yet another friend drive me back from the ER (25 miles one-way) at dinnertime (one arm in a sling and the other in a splint). And while I left to see the orthopod the next day, yet another neighbor and his brother jumped on the shop roof and put down the underlayment, just before it rained on the OSB.

I really don't need to live anywhere else.

My spousal-equivalent, temporarily in SoCal, took 3 wks sick leave to come be Step-And-Fetch. My step-daughter came with her, to haul firewood.

Cast should come off next week ... except I already took the damn thing off.(I'm sure the orthopod will be very cross with me.) I fell more than 4 weeks ago.

So don't feel too sorry for me, cause now I'm just bragging about it.

[cranky]

..get'er fixed and back to 110%!!! Best to Ya.... you WILL learn as ya get older... sigh...
NOT a fun time'a life..... gettin' old ain't for whoosies!!!!

[cushman eagle]

Yeh,cranky,I am not too sure we learn as we get older,it is just simpler thing hurt us more,and Grandpa Denny,they take a lot longer to heal.
I am speaking by experience as I turned 72 a month ago

[GrandpaDenny]

You're right, we sure do take a lot longer to heal. I've been dealing with a slowly healing broken foot for YEARS. At least I don't have to wear the boot anymore, or the bone stimulator. It's pretty much finally healed.

[2wrems]

Sorry to hear about the injuries. Falls can be bad. My old boss fell off a ladder cleaning his gutter, broke his arm and shoulder joint. The actually replaced the joint but his body rejected it. So he had movement of his arm, but he couldn't lift his arm up, he had to pick it up with his other arm. Doesn't take much.

Well, i reinstalled the fuel level sending unit. I'm still waiting for the tank lining to dry, but i can keep working. I finally put actual antifreeze in the cooling system. I've had just water in it. I changed the oil filter yesterday. With the new oil filter i also put seafoam in the crankcase. How long do you guys keep the seafoam in the crankcase? The bottle says 100-300 miles in a car. I was thinking as I'm working and maybe for the first ride just keep it in there. While I had the rear wheel off, i did notice that my bike doesn't have the vent hole on the final drive. Would you guys recommend me taking the wheel back off before i put the back of the bike together and drilling the vent hole ? It would be quick/easy to do now. Once the subframe is back on with the body it will be a bit more work. While the tank is drying, i can start the process of reinstalling it. It's getting close to being in one piece again. Oh yea, literally everything i look at has been wrong. The marker lights all had the wrong bulbs in them. Luckily the wiring schematic shows the correct bulbs.

[SgtSlag]

I'll keep this short. SeaFoam an engine once -- that is all it will need, as long as you run modern API rated oils, SL+, as they are highly detergent, and their thermal breakdown is north of 300 F, so they will never burn to carbon in your engine.

If there is sludge for the SeaFoam to dissolve, it will happen within five minutes of idling: run it up to running temperature, shifting through all gears to flush the transmission, as well as the engine. Change oil and filter. Eleven years ago, the instructions said to change oil/filter as soon as the oil darkened. SeaFoam will thin the oil slightly, so run it as stated, then change it, to be safe. You will never need to SeaFoam an engine twice, as long as you run modern API rated oils in it. Based on firsthand experiences, there will never be any crud afterwards. Cheers!