1995 Revival

[Barry]

i didnt realize these bikes had self cancelling turn signals!

You may find that they turn off early when approaching a turn. I bought one of theses many years ago and it works great.
https://www.amervoyassoc.org/osclass/pa ... ender_i722

[Nails]

Mine only occasionally cancel at all.

[Barry]

Mine only occasionally cancel at all.

Is that a bad thing? If you want yours to work like it's supposed to, I would start with a conversation with the great Carl Leo. It's probably just the module. Hope your body has recovered and you're able to resume all your plans for this year. I would have wished you a speedy recovery, except the info you put out was in a thread I wasn't following.

[Nails]

Thanks, Barry.

I don't care enough about the turn signals to want to fuss with it. Sometimes it works. The handlebar switch is stiff.

Sure taking a long time to recover. I'm riding again, but not going far -- my wrist gets sore at night if I pull the clutch too many times. I'm about half finished with the metal on one side of the roof. I was awfully slow even before this. I have an appt with the orthopod on Thur.

Hoping to ride by this fall, to see The Mother-In-Law in Spokane. Maybe you'll have something to help me keep calm.

[Barry]

I'd be happy to share some liquid relaxant with you. Recently there's a lot of stress with illnesses on my wife's side of the family. Between that and watching the news I ended up at the E.R. overnight. I have some heart issues and am currently being monitored for 2 weeks. The good news is they say I didn't have a heart attack. Looks like A-fib which hopefully can be treated with medication. Additional testing next week. My schedule has been so full I haven't had a chance for any 2-wheel therapy. Weather is improving which is helping my attitude. I'm almost ready to ride.

[cushman eagle]

2wrems,it looks like you got yourself a good looking bike congratulations
Ride it ,and enjoy it!
I sure have enjoyed mine for the 11+yearsI have had it.

[GrandpaDenny]

Barry, you take it easy on yourself boy. Nails, well... Seriously, both of you, get well soon!

[2wrems]

Man, i'm loving this bike. Planning a 5 day ride from Pittsburgh to Maggie Valley NC.

[Nails]

Planning a 5 day ride from Pittsburgh to Maggie Valley NC.

Just be real careful on those twisty mountain roads.

[cushman eagle]

Hey,2wrems,I sure wish I could ride with you to Maggie Valley,I would love to go through' Wheels Through Time' museum again

[2wrems]

Day 1 Pittsburgh To Matewan WV. Stay at the historic bed and breakfast. 430mi
Day 2 Matewan through the mountains to Maggie valley. 300 mi
Day 3 Shorter ride from maggie valley to the Great Smokies and the tail of the dragon back to maggie valley. 220mi
Day 4 Maggie Valley jumping on the blue ridge parkway and staying over in Lynchburg/lexington. 410 mi
Day 5 Lynchburg/lexington back to Pittsburgh via blue ridge parkway and skyline drive through Shenandoah national park. 380mi

I think i have the route all laid out. Going to nail down dates here very soon and start making some reservations. I went through the Wheels through time museum a few years ago and its awesome. It should be a good trip. My girl friend has never done any kind of trip like this so it will be enjoyable.

So just one other update. Since you guys told me my bike has a 1986 body on it, it doesn't have the main cruise control power switch on the fake tank. I see some on ebay, but got to thinking. I don't need the "on" light, and the "Set" light. But i do need to get power to the cruise control system via that switch... What if i just take the switch out ? Just hard wire it so the cruise always has power, connect those two switched legs together. Anyone see a problem with that? I'd hate to go through all of hassle of buying the CC switch and drilling holes and all that if one of the other parts of the cruise system doesn't work. I've never had a bike with cruise, it would be nice if i could get it working, but if i can't no big deal. I'm gonna try to hard wire it today.

[Barry]

I saved this post way back in 2004 from another vxii forum that no longer exists:
This info comes from a post sometime ago and credit goes to the contributor "Scott".

Control, Relocation

I have a tank bag on my bike and hated the fact that I always drove off without first reaching in the bag and turning the cruise on. I tried to wire a remote switch and light near the speaker fader control and found I didn't need them.
Unplug the cruise box and hang it on the wall in the garage. You won't need it. At the connector jump the red wire, brown wire and black/white tracer wire together. The cruise is always on now. When you start the bike and hit the hiway, all you have to do is thumb the handlebar set switch and it works. Everything works as normal. If you want the "set" light (as I do) just wire a bulb into the red/yellow tracer and yellow/red tracer wires. I left the light near the fader control. It flashes as you accell and decell just as the cruise box did. - Scott

Good Luck,

[2wrems]

At the connector jump the red wire, brown wire and black/white tracer wire together.

Hmm.... That's interesting. The red and brown is connected when the switch is off... and if im reading the schematic correctly on page 15-16, the red wire connects to the black/white wire when its on. If it works though, maybe im looking at the switch symbol wrong. Sure looks like the red to brown gets disconnected when you turn the switch on. If connecting all 3 works though, maybe ill just try that. Thanks.

[Nails]

Day 4 Maggie Valley jumping on the blue ridge parkway and staying over in Lynchburg/lexington. 410 mi
Day 5 Lynchburg/lexington back to Pittsburgh via blue ridge parkway and skyline drive through Shenandoah national park. 380mi

You likely know more about BRP than I do. But I think you're planning way too many miles there, given that the max speed is 45 and often less, and that you're gonna want to stop and smell the roses. Just sayin'.

I don't need the "on" light, and the "Set" light.

I thought the same, but CC is prone to failure in its notoriously quirky electrical design. Often these failures are temporary. I mean, I often look to these lights while riding to try to get a handle on why the damn thing just quit working.

But i do need to get power to the cruise control system via that switch.

Note that the CC system does not used latched solenoids, but instead uses complex circuitry to maintain power to the solenoids. One of the two switches is normally on, and the other is normally off. I'm just saying that I've found this circuit design challenging to wrap my head around.

I elected to keep both switches and use the CC as designed, even though I completely moved all that crap off the "gas tank".

I'd hate to go through all of hassle of buying the CC switch and drilling holes and all that if one of the other parts of the cruise system doesn't work. I've never had a bike with cruise, it would be nice if i could get it working, but if i can't no big deal. I'm gonna try to hard wire it today.

There are many reasons the CC might not work; and even if it did there are many reasons it'll likely fail again. I doubt the "hardwire" you mention will bypass what's wrong with it ... which probably is a bad switch in its "cancel" circuitry. I mean, you can't set the CC if it's in a "cancel" state.

The manual has a nice outline for checking the circuitry on the pin-outs for the CC module (under the left fairing). I've repaired mine only to have something else fail, about once per year. Right exactly now, mine doesn't work (again).

The CC is great, but you'll want to get familiar with these diagnostics. I also recommend a Vista Cruise for backup. And I urge caution before hacking it too much.

[Barry]

At the connector jump the red wire, brown wire and black/white tracer wire together.

Hmm.... That's interesting. The red and brown is connected when the switch is off... and if im reading the schematic correctly on page 15-16, the red wire connects to the black/white wire when its on. If it works though, maybe im looking at the switch symbol wrong. Sure looks like the red to brown gets disconnected when you turn the switch on. If connecting all 3 works though, maybe ill just try that. Thanks.

Many years ago I purchased a 98 vxii from John Ramsay. (He's on this forum as vxiirider.) He had performed this modification so he could use a tank bag. When I got it from him I just unplugged the 3 connector strap he had made and plugged in the factory pod with the lights & switches. I didn't pay attention to which wires it was connected to, so I cannot say the information I provided earlier is correct. I just know it has and can be done.

[Barry]

I'd hate to go through all of hassle of buying the CC switch and drilling holes and all that if one of the other parts of the cruise system doesn't work. I've never had a bike with cruise, it would be nice if i could get it working, but if i can't no big deal. I'm gonna try to hard wire it today.

There are many reasons the CC might not work; and even if it did there are many reasons it'll likely fail again. I doubt the "hardwire" you mention will bypass what's wrong with it ... which probably is a bad switch in its "cancel" circuitry. I mean, you can't set the CC if it's in a "cancel" state.

The manual has a nice outline for checking the circuitry on the pin-outs for the CC module (under the left fairing). I've repaired mine only to have something else fail, about once per year. Right exactly now, mine doesn't work (again).

The CC is great, but you'll want to get familiar with these diagnostics. I also recommend a Vista Cruise for backup. And I urge caution before hacking it too much.

1986 false tanks are the only ones without the cruise control pod, so they are very rare. I would not drill holes in it. Instead I would pick up another false tank with the cruise control switches. That will help immensely in troubleshooting. My cruise control died one time on a 5 day trip. I bought a vista cruise to get me home. After I fixed the cruise control I just left it as a backup. They are simple & work well. JM2C.

[2wrems]

Well I jumped those three wires and took her out. Cruise works! Thanks alot for that info man! I'm pumped. I got it inspected while I was out. So officially legal and ready to ride!

[Nails]

Good deal! I thought you already knew there was something wrong with it ... besides just not plugged into anything. Simple is good.

[2wrems]

Good deal! I thought you already knew there was something wrong with it ... besides just not plugged into anything. Simple is good.

I didn't realize what that CC piece on the fake tank was. I thought maybe it was just a display. Not until i tried using the CC that i found it didn't work and saw that part on the fake tank was the main power switch. I'm glad it just needed a bit of hot wiring, and that one of the other parts of the system aren't malfunctioning.

I am taking your advice and adding one maybe two days to the Maggie Valley trip, mainly for my girlfriend. Having never moto traveled or been in that area, she will be sorta upset if we just ride right through and not stop much.

[2wrems]

It's been awhile. I think the only changes since i posted last is the upgraded rear shocks to progressives. I also bought a rack and the lower chin fairing that i was missing and got them installed here recently. Still loving the bike. Took it on a 6 day trip from Pittsburgh PA up through PA and NY to Niagara Falls, Over the finger lakes to Watkins Glen. To the PA Grand Canyon, all through north central rural PA stopping at many state parks along the way. Not even a hiccup. Did great. Its becoming my go to bike.