Ok so I have never had a touring bike before so I am looking for some suggestions. I have been riding solo for about 30yrs and I am not embarrassed to ask for help or admit I don't know something so with that said can y'all give me suggestions and safety tips for riding two up???? My wife rode with me twice on my Yamaha Vmax and we were about 80 lbs lighter (mostly me ) and there were no settings for two up riding. She rode said her ass hurt. I spent $400 on a new saddle she rode again said her ass hurt and never got back on the bike. Fast forward 21yrs and a touring bike purchase and now I need info. I know I will need to adjust for stopping and starting and I need to tell her to lean with the bike but what else do I need to worry about? I see there are shock adjustments that can be made for two up riding. Do you guys utilize those dial setting? Is there a chart for weight vs which number to set to? etc., etc., etc. or anything else you can think of.
Thanks, Ken
PS: I now have about 300 miles in the saddle with the XII so I fell comfortable solo just a little concerned bout two up. Thanks again!
Two Up Riding
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Re: Two Up Riding
Stock bike! 6 to 8 psi in front forks. Rear shocks, #4 on the rebound dial and 50# psi.
Try not to load the trunk to heavy or load the luggage rack until you adjust to your wife on the back
Tires are very important so make sure you have the proper air psi in both tires.
Stock seat is ok, I changed mine for a Corbin after 50,000 miles. What I did at Corbin was have the passenger seat custom cut for my wife. Life has been good ever since.
Good luck
Try not to load the trunk to heavy or load the luggage rack until you adjust to your wife on the back
Tires are very important so make sure you have the proper air psi in both tires.
Stock seat is ok, I changed mine for a Corbin after 50,000 miles. What I did at Corbin was have the passenger seat custom cut for my wife. Life has been good ever since.
Good luck
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Re: Two Up Riding
The stock seat isn't bad at all. I run stock bike (only recently got it) but have put several hundred miles on it, many with the bitter half on back. I run 7lbs in front shocks and 38-40 rear with damper set on 4. Experimented a little bit before settling down on these settings. I did however install travel trunk extenders to allow 3" more room for passenger. I would personally recommend a couple of short rides with passenger to experiment a little and get used to the feel. These machines are pretty user friendly and ride 2 up very comfortably. Good luck!
Be careful out there
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Re: Two Up Riding
I haven't ridden from the back, but just sitting on the back, I think the rear seat is more comfortable than the front. I've gotten compliments from everyone who's ridden pillion. With the new Progressive rear shocks, the only adjustment is to adjust the preload all the way up.
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Re: Two Up Riding
We ride two up, 98% of the time. My wife and I are not small people. I upgraded to Progressive brand Fork Springs and sealed shocks within a month of getting the Voyager -- never tried using the OEM suspension system with fresh oils. Get Heavy Duty Springs only: tried Regular Springs, blew out the shocks within one month, had to buy new shocks and Heavy Duty Springs! Have not had an issue since the second set was installed, back in 2010, and we have ridden them for 20,000+ miles, so far.
We trade positions on the bike, every two hours: the rear position is cramped, even with trunk extenders, and passenger highway pegs to allow us to move our legs around just a bit! We both need a change after 2-3 hours on the rear seat. The Trunk Extenders are a requirement, for us: we are both 5' 11", with long legs.
We take as many long weekend rides as possible, typically 4-8 hours on the bike each day we ride. We tour, nearly every year. Most tours are 3-7 days riding on the bike. We recently began trailering our bike to our destination home base, riding the bike from there, doing cloverleaf rides. Love it: we're not tired of riding when we arrive; we ride if the weather is tolerable, drive if it is not; we ride home in our Jeep Cherokee, relaxed and comfortable. We have no problem being "Trailer Trash"!
We have tried various seat covers: sheepskin, wooden beads (#2), Airhawk, and a Gypsy Quilter Sit Upon (#1), which is really the best, so far. The Airhawk was about worthless for us -- your mileage may vary.
Our Voyager is top-heavy, without any seat cover in place. The Gypsy Quilter raises us both up, around one inch -- this makes the bike even more top-heavy. Be aware that any seat cover will raise you up higher, and that will affect the balance of the bike...
A custom seat, built to your body measurements can be a wonderful thing, if they are done properly. They are a lot of money, and there are no refunds. They are also cut to each person's measurements: they will not be comfortable if you switch positions on the bike. Do your homework before investing in any custom seat, to make an informed decision.
I highly recommend a backrest for the driver, if you can find one! One of the best touring accessories possible. The trunk extenders are a must, IMO. The passenger highway pegs are nice, and they extend the tolerance period on the back by 30-60 minutes, for us.
If you tour, load your heaviest gear in the saddlebags, put your lightest gear in the trunk (too much will make the bike too top-heavy...). If you get the Trunk Extenders, pushing the Trunk all the way back will create a pocket, between the passenger's seat, and the Trunk: it is a great place to store soft stuff, like a bike cover, or rain gear!
Experimentation is King, Baby! Try short rides, to see how it goes for both of you. Gradually increase your time in the saddle, allowing yourselves to gain comfort and proficiency. It is worth the investment. Our rides are when we are the happiest: no work/family distractions, just the two of us, breathing in the scents of the life around us, drinking in the gorgeous beauty, enjoying the freedom of the ride. We live to ride, and we ride to live. Cheers!
We trade positions on the bike, every two hours: the rear position is cramped, even with trunk extenders, and passenger highway pegs to allow us to move our legs around just a bit! We both need a change after 2-3 hours on the rear seat. The Trunk Extenders are a requirement, for us: we are both 5' 11", with long legs.
We take as many long weekend rides as possible, typically 4-8 hours on the bike each day we ride. We tour, nearly every year. Most tours are 3-7 days riding on the bike. We recently began trailering our bike to our destination home base, riding the bike from there, doing cloverleaf rides. Love it: we're not tired of riding when we arrive; we ride if the weather is tolerable, drive if it is not; we ride home in our Jeep Cherokee, relaxed and comfortable. We have no problem being "Trailer Trash"!
We have tried various seat covers: sheepskin, wooden beads (#2), Airhawk, and a Gypsy Quilter Sit Upon (#1), which is really the best, so far. The Airhawk was about worthless for us -- your mileage may vary.
Our Voyager is top-heavy, without any seat cover in place. The Gypsy Quilter raises us both up, around one inch -- this makes the bike even more top-heavy. Be aware that any seat cover will raise you up higher, and that will affect the balance of the bike...
A custom seat, built to your body measurements can be a wonderful thing, if they are done properly. They are a lot of money, and there are no refunds. They are also cut to each person's measurements: they will not be comfortable if you switch positions on the bike. Do your homework before investing in any custom seat, to make an informed decision.
I highly recommend a backrest for the driver, if you can find one! One of the best touring accessories possible. The trunk extenders are a must, IMO. The passenger highway pegs are nice, and they extend the tolerance period on the back by 30-60 minutes, for us.
If you tour, load your heaviest gear in the saddlebags, put your lightest gear in the trunk (too much will make the bike too top-heavy...). If you get the Trunk Extenders, pushing the Trunk all the way back will create a pocket, between the passenger's seat, and the Trunk: it is a great place to store soft stuff, like a bike cover, or rain gear!
Experimentation is King, Baby! Try short rides, to see how it goes for both of you. Gradually increase your time in the saddle, allowing yourselves to gain comfort and proficiency. It is worth the investment. Our rides are when we are the happiest: no work/family distractions, just the two of us, breathing in the scents of the life around us, drinking in the gorgeous beauty, enjoying the freedom of the ride. We live to ride, and we ride to live. Cheers!
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