California blast

This is for general posts and questions concerning only the Voyager XII (1200cc, Four-cylinder) Years 1986 thru 2003.

Moderators: the2knights, Highway Rider

Post Reply
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

California blast

Post by Nails »

This is a pissant ride report about a quick buzz to SoCal to visit my spousal equivalent, who is still stuck in the LA Basin. I live near Santa Fe, NM. I didn't pay much attention to mileage, but about 2800 miles over four riding days. The basic idea was to take two days instead of blasting out the freeway in one day (I'm pretty tired of that). But I still ended up riding too long each day.

My general plan was to ride across the Navajo Rez, do a quick pass through the Grand Canyon, take a long-cut through Peach Springs AZ, and then pick up I-15 via Laughlin and the mega-city of Nipton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipton%2C_California). Then come back somehow south of I-40. However, I did it backwards because the first night (camping somewhere near Flagstaff) was calling for sub-freezing temps.

For the trip out, my bike was loaded with crap I was taking to Deanna. My camera was buried, so I just took a few snapshots on my phone. I did a freeway blast out to Winslow, then turned south on AZ-87 to camp somewhere in the Natl Forest. It was good to get off the damn freeway. At the end of the day, a wrong turn took me back toward Flagstaff. It got cold even before dark. I spent the night at a FS campground that was considerably warmer, but I still got cold.
camp.jpg
Early in the morning, I put on all my clothes and stamped some feeling into my feet, then worried about gas. That wrong turn burned 40 miles of gas I needed. But within a quarter mile, I found both gas and coffee. A nice sweeper ride through the forest down to Camp Verde (in the hot valley), and things were definitely looking up. I cut over to Jerome, which is just fantastic. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Jerome%2C+ ... -Hotel.jpg It's a mining town with the typical tourist kletch, but this one appears to be more economically viable -- lots of restaurants and great old motels. (We're planning an overnight the next time we're slogging through together.) It's on an especially steep bedrock outcrop, and the "highway" (AZ-89A) through town is way too narrow and steep for RVs. But the best part was the next 10 miles south of town, I think the best curvy road I've ever ridden. Lots of 15-20 MPH curves, scratched into the rock cliffs (no shoulders even to stash the bike for a quick photo). Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyDRgziTVFI.

I went through Prescott, where AZ-89 to the south also had splendid curves on nice tarmac. These were more of the 35MPH variety where it's entirely possible to have too much fun -- sorry, but good as the XII is, it's no sportbike. Then the desert. I crossed the Colorado River near Parker, temps in the high 90s. Then through Joshua Tree Natl Park and blasted on the freeway to LA.
Joshua Tree.jpg
It was nice to see Deanna and thus begin a week of wine tasting and pigging-out on seafood. We took her car up the coast to spend a few days with family in San Luis Obispo.
coast.jpg
These users liked Nails's post:
GrandpaDenny (Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:38 pm) • Wormys_Dad (Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:53 pm) • cranky (Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:50 pm) • triton28 (Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:24 pm) • Barry (Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:13 am) • Van Voyager (Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:23 am) • Sidehopper (Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:01 pm)
Rating: 77.78%
--
Nails
User avatar
GrandpaDenny
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1078
Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:24 pm
5
Current bike(s): 1993 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500
Has liked: 481 times
Been liked: 435 times

Re: California blast

Post by GrandpaDenny »

Dude, I'm jealous. I grew up in Arizona, and miss it.
These users liked GrandpaDenny's post:
Nails (Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:54 am)
Rating: 11.11%
Dennis Fariello
Philadelphia, PA
2000 Voyager XII "Gertrude" - deceased
1993 Vulcan 88 "Emily"

South Jersey Retreads
Patriot Guard Riders
Warriors Watch Riders

VXII Manuals:
https://amervoyassoc.org/zg1200manuals.php
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

return trip

Post by Nails »

I came back via the megopolis of Nipton (previous post) in triple-digit temps. It sucked, but wearing shorts and a motocross jersey under light-colored armored mesh definitely helped. I got a motel in Kingman because I couldn't get iOverlander to run on my phone. I didn't want to take a chance on wild camping near the Grand Canyon. And I was spent. And I needed to refreeze my ice pack, which is a quart of margarita -- or started out that much.

The next day, I rode through Peach Springs on Rt 66. I don't suffer much 50's nostalgia, but there wasn't much besides rusted old cars and decrepit old motels and gas stations anyway -- all the Rt-66 crap was just off the freeway in Kingman and Seligman. My reasons for the loop were because I rode in the back of our 1957 Ford station wagon through here in the early 60's -- wanted to see it again. And I'll ride the train through here in a couple months. The west end of this long-cut went through a pretty granite poop-pile canyon with trees in the valley bottoms, but I didn't see any photos I wanted.

On to the Grand Canyon via Williams. I have a few other photos, but just this one on the phone.
G Canyon.jpg
Then a deathslog through the beautiful north end of the Navajo Rez. I got home via Tuba City, Kayenta, Farmington, and Bernalillo -- rolled in just before midnight. Way too long to be fun.

So now I have a lot of maintenance before a longer ride to Spokane, coming up in just two weeks.
These users liked Nails's post:
cranky (Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:52 pm) • triton28 (Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:25 pm) • Wormys_Dad (Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:22 am) • Van Voyager (Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:23 am) • GrandpaDenny (Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:44 pm)
Rating: 55.56%
--
Nails
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

Re: California blast

Post by Nails »

GrandpaDenny wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:38 pmDude, I'm jealous. I grew up in Arizona, and miss it.
AZ is smack-dab between me and my lady, but I haven't been taking enough advantage of that. I've been through Show Low, both via Globe and Payson, a bunch of times -- family formerly in Scottsdale. It's already way too late for a more southerly route; and everything along the Colorado is too damn hot also.

Those pine forests between Lake Havasu and Prescott sure look inviting, but I'm having trouble seeing a good way east-west through there. I'll probably do the superslab slog to Flagstaff, then angle down through Prescott to try to sort something -- not too clear to me now. I'm super-tired of I-40 through Needles and Barstow; and I-10 gets to LA just fine too. Not better, just different.

My short list also has a winter trip through Organ Pipe Cactus -- what could be better in December? (Assuming I can get off the snow and ice where I live.) My only other ideas right now are to work in those legendary curves from Alpine to the Morenci Mine, and then find some way to noodle between Tucson and Phoenix without getting sucked into Yuma. I could sure see myself getting sucked back into the Chiricahuas, though. Maybe next Spring.

Until about noon yesterday, I was planning to take N-264 all the way from Tuba City to Window Rock, across the heart of the Navajo Rez and along a bunch of the Hopi Rez. But I chickened out being too far from home, not knowing the road condition, and not really wanting to camp in New Mexico (definitely not on the Rez). I'll work this in for a future trip, undoubtedly with another Grand Canyon flyby. (I'm sure liking the Geezer Pass -- would've cost $30 to get into the Grand Canyon NP.)

As for where you live -- I'll ride to SW Ohio this fall, visiting my mom. There's a fair chance I'll end up in Maine to see a friend, but that's a damn long ride.
These users liked Nails's post:
triton28 (Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:25 pm) • Van Voyager (Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:23 am)
Rating: 22.22%
--
Nails
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

plant life on the coast

Post by Nails »

Live oaks that get stunted in the wind on the coast. Generally less than about 8' tall. This is charmingly called the "Elfin Forest".I didn't see many elves.
pigmy oaks4.jpg
pigmy oaks2.jpg
Kingman motel.
Ramblin Rose1.jpg
The pool was full of gravel. But I took a half-dozen "swims", running around the little tile shower with just the cold water on.
bike-pool.jpg
These users liked Nails's post:
Wormys_Dad (Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:25 am) • Van Voyager (Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:23 am) • Scott-(Altoona, PA) (Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:40 pm)
Rating: 33.33%
--
Nails
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

Grand Canyon

Post by Nails »

If you've seen one, you've sorta seen them all. (Honestly, what I should've done for anything this immense is take a photo of someone's face looking at it.)
GrandCanyon3.jpg
GrandCanyon5.jpg
GrandCanyon8.jpg
GrandCanyon9.jpg
These users liked Nails's post:
cranky (Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:43 pm) • Van Voyager (Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:22 am)
Rating: 22.22%
--
Nails
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

lunch

Post by Nails »

Getting into my ice pack.
lunch.jpg
And a rather random photo of the Navajo Rez.
rez.jpg
These users liked Nails's post:
Van Voyager (Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:22 am)
Rating: 11.11%
--
Nails
cushman eagle
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1982
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:08 pm
13
Current bike(s): '99 Kawasaki Voyager 1200
1958 Cushman Eagle restoration has been finished,and have put 3030 miles on her!
Location: Orrville,Ohio
Has liked: 852 times
Been liked: 290 times

Re: California blast

Post by cushman eagle »

Nails,thank you for sharing your trip with us :thanks:
You got some great pictures. :thmup:
These users liked cushman eagle's post:
cranky (Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:36 am) • Nails (Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:55 am)
Rating: 22.22%
'99 Voyager VXII,'58 Cushman Eagle
User avatar
Barry
Grand Tourer
Grand Tourer
Posts: 398
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:00 pm
16
Current bike(s): 87 Voyager 12
Has liked: 100 times
Been liked: 69 times

Re: California blast

Post by Barry »

Sounds like the only thing you did wrong was pretending you were half your age. Still nice to know someone in my age bracket can rack up high mileage days and survive. Congrats on having a safe trip on fun roads.
These users liked Barry's post:
Nails (Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:42 am) • cranky (Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:19 pm)
Rating: 22.22%
Barry
87 Voyager XII
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

Re: California blast

Post by Nails »

Barry wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:17 amSounds like the only thing you did wrong was pretending you were half your age.
I'm limping because my back arthritis won't let me stand up straight. I'll get into the 600mg ibuprofen left over from my broken wrist. Give it a day or two.

And my acute hearing loss appears to be real, not just wax. I wore earplugs, so presumably just from noise leaks. Hoping for some recovery in the next few days -- it's happened before. But it's time to give a lot of money to an otologist.

Said wrist seems to have benefited from the handlebar therapy, with just some residual nerve tingling today. Despite deep bone aches yesterday that would bring a smile to any self-respecting physical therapist.

I'm compelled to insist on all the benefits of my full age. :lol:
These users liked Nails's post:
Van Voyager (Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:22 am)
Rating: 11.11%
--
Nails
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

windshield height

Post by Nails »

Talking of hearing loss, I did more testing with my "tall" windshield. It's cut down to 15" showing.
windshield1.jpg
My newer Nolan helmet gives different results from my old, super-cheap helmet. Instead of being way noisy all the time, my Nolan shows three levels of noise.

In contrast to my low windshield (just 9" showing), there's more vision-blurring buffeting, generally in special circumstances like coming up behind a big truck. (I mean, even a few hundred yards behind.) The low windshield has much cleaner (laminar flowing) wind. Also, this buffeting was much more noticeable when I had my suitcase on the bike's rack. Notice that the suitcase is very low and slick -- I don't carry anything on it. (See first photo in this thread.) I think the stock trunk is worse, but don't really remember.

With this 15" windshield:
  • With my head lowered just an inch or so, the helmet noise is much less. I don't think the helmet vents work very well, but I only did this when it was too hot to clearly feel much ventilation anyway.
  • With my head at head-height, I also had less noise with the helmet visor opened. I didn't expect that. I used the internal "sunglasses" like this a little, but that made my eyes dry out.
  • Raising my head a couple inches increased the noise level again. That is, I noticed three distinct noise levels: pretty quiet with my head down an inch or two (or the visor opened); kinda noisy at natural head height; and louder with my head up just an inch or two. The steps between these were discrete, not gradual.
So for my setup, it's a compromise involving noise, buffeting, and ventilation. Given my issues with noise, I might have to spring for another windshield, keep it tall, and put up with the buffeting and decreased ventilation. But first, I'll try using wind-resistant (foam stuff) glasses. My helmet allows replacing the look-through "visor" with an ADV-style sun-bill "visor". It also allows removing the chin bar for open-face ventilation, but I think I'd do that only on low-speed roads like touring through a park.
YMMV
--
Nails
User avatar
cranky
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1037
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:36 am
8
Current bike(s): 2003 Voyager
Location: San Jose, KalEfornYa
Has liked: 303 times
Been liked: 80 times

Re: California blast

Post by cranky »

.. get the one that lets you just see comfortably over it, and
PLEASE get the vent for it!!!!!!!!!!! It makes a work of difference
in the turbulence behind the shield... yes I went with
Clearview, I'd surely recommend it!! BUT GET THE VENT!!!!!
Serious!!!! Best money spent!!!
These users liked cranky's post:
Barry (Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:04 pm) • cushman eagle (Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:27 am)
Rating: 22.22%
'03 Voyager - http://tinyurl.com/mqtgpwp VROC pics of Gina
Cranky - Bill Snodgrass AVA # 6544. VROC # 16804
Cranked >128K miles, Mtn bike-no motor!!!
San Jose, KalEfornYa
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

Re: California blast

Post by Nails »

Instead of a windshield vent, I built an inlet where the Kawasaki badge used to be, in a high-pressure zone:
P1000301.jpg
(Yup, sheetrock screws.)

And an outlet where the radio used to be -- low-pressure zone.
P1000302.jpg
(Notice the sunlight from the inlet.)

Don't need no stinkin' radio. Don't need no "golf-cart" badges, neither. :rolling:
These users liked Nails's post:
cranky (Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:24 pm)
Rating: 11.11%
--
Nails
User avatar
GrandpaDenny
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1078
Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:24 pm
5
Current bike(s): 1993 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500
Has liked: 481 times
Been liked: 435 times

Re: California blast

Post by GrandpaDenny »

Nails wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:36 pm
GrandpaDenny wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:38 pmDude, I'm jealous. I grew up in Arizona, and miss it.
AZ is smack-dab between me and my lady, but I haven't been taking enough advantage of that. I've been through Show Low, both via Globe and Payson, a bunch of times -- family formerly in Scottsdale. It's already way too late for a more southerly route; and everything along the Colorado is too damn hot also.

Those pine forests between Lake Havasu and Prescott sure look inviting, but I'm having trouble seeing a good way east-west through there. I'll probably do the superslab slog to Flagstaff, then angle down through Prescott to try to sort something -- not too clear to me now. I'm super-tired of I-40 through Needles and Barstow; and I-10 gets to LA just fine too. Not better, just different.

My short list also has a winter trip through Organ Pipe Cactus -- what could be better in December? (Assuming I can get off the snow and ice where I live.) My only other ideas right now are to work in those legendary curves from Alpine to the Morenci Mine, and then find some way to noodle between Tucson and Phoenix without getting sucked into Yuma. I could sure see myself getting sucked back into the Chiricahuas, though. Maybe next Spring.

Until about noon yesterday, I was planning to take N-264 all the way from Tuba City to Window Rock, across the heart of the Navajo Rez and along a bunch of the Hopi Rez. But I chickened out being too far from home, not knowing the road condition, and not really wanting to camp in New Mexico (definitely not on the Rez). I'll work this in for a future trip, undoubtedly with another Grand Canyon flyby. (I'm sure liking the Geezer Pass -- would've cost $30 to get into the Grand Canyon NP.)

As for where you live -- I'll ride to SW Ohio this fall, visiting my mom. There's a fair chance I'll end up in Maine to see a friend, but that's a damn long ride.
Yeah, the Rim kind of gets in the way of going east. Your choices are pretty much limited to going up north through Payson and such, or heading up the Beeline from Phoenix, which also gets you to Payson and such, or through Queen Creek (which is a cool ride in a pickup truck, would love to do it on a bike) which would lead you southeast. Hell, you've got maps, I'm going by memory, and I haven't been out there since the mid-90s.

Would love to meet you if you head this way.
Dennis Fariello
Philadelphia, PA
2000 Voyager XII "Gertrude" - deceased
1993 Vulcan 88 "Emily"

South Jersey Retreads
Patriot Guard Riders
Warriors Watch Riders

VXII Manuals:
https://amervoyassoc.org/zg1200manuals.php
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

Re: California blast

Post by Nails »

GrandpaDenny wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:49 pm(which is a cool ride in a pickup truck, would love to do it on a bike)
I think you're talking about the Salt River Canyon. You're right. I've been through there in a Mini Cooper, but not on a bike.

I'm still looking for something west of Prescott. I've heard good things about https://www.recreation.gov/camping/campgrounds/10000305; and I'm tempted to check out about 40 miles of dirt road cutting from there over to I-40 toward Needles. There are other options heading east toward Prescott that are at least partially paved.

Yeah, I'm getting desperate to avoid I-40.
GrandpaDenny wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:49 pmWould love to meet you if you head this way.
That'd be fun. I'm still figuring that trip out. (Spent two years at the Navy Regional Med Center in S Philly. Only been back once in 40 years. On that business trip, I was blown away by all the hookers on the street -- but then realized it was Halloween. Sometimes I can be really slow in the head. The women in costume were very alluring.)
--
Nails
User avatar
GrandpaDenny
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1078
Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:24 pm
5
Current bike(s): 1993 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500
Has liked: 481 times
Been liked: 435 times

Re: California blast

Post by GrandpaDenny »

Nails wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:01 pm I think you're talking about the Salt River Canyon.
No, not the Salt River Canyon. That leads up to the lakes. You get to Queen Creek by making a right at Apache Junction. US 60, leads to Superior, Globe, etc. - the big open pit mining towns. From Globe you can continue NE on US 60 up towards Show Low and Pinetop, or SE on US 70 towards Safford and eventually I-10, or you can run up US191 leading eventually up to the White Mountains (which you can also get to from Pinetop) and/or east into NM.

Dude, you're making me want to do a lengthy road trip... It would be so cool to see my nephew, great-nephew, and great-grand-nephew in Phoenix. And oh, those mountain roads...

I'm retired, and if I didn't have a cat, I would be on the road! But not to Phoenix this time of year ROFL. I think I've lived in Phoenix every time they've had a record highest temperature since 1973. 118 I think in the mid-70s, and then 122 or so in the mid-90s IIRC. But It's A Dry Heat.
These users liked GrandpaDenny's post:
cranky (Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:05 pm)
Rating: 11.11%
Dennis Fariello
Philadelphia, PA
2000 Voyager XII "Gertrude" - deceased
1993 Vulcan 88 "Emily"

South Jersey Retreads
Patriot Guard Riders
Warriors Watch Riders

VXII Manuals:
https://amervoyassoc.org/zg1200manuals.php
User avatar
Nails
King of the Road
King of the Road
Posts: 1771
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:37 pm
7
Current bike(s): '97 XII
'00 XT350
'85 KLR 250
'82 Silverwing Sushiguzzi
Location: New Mexico Rockies
Has liked: 228 times
Been liked: 602 times

Re: California blast

Post by Nails »

Well stop by if you're coming anywhere near Santa Fe.
--
Nails
Post Reply

Return to “General - Voyager XII (1200 Four)”