carb removal
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- dogzz
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carb removal
Hello all
Is there a" trick" to getting the carbs off a 86 voy?
I have the air filter box off & the small box
( the one with 2 hoses on it) loose& it
seems there's still not enough room?
Thanks
Vinny
Is there a" trick" to getting the carbs off a 86 voy?
I have the air filter box off & the small box
( the one with 2 hoses on it) loose& it
seems there's still not enough room?
Thanks
Vinny
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Re: carb removal
Dogzz,dogzz wrote:Hello all
Is there a" trick" to getting the carbs off a 86 voy?
I have the air filter box off & the small box
( the one with 2 hoses on it) loose& it
seems there's still not enough room?
Thanks
Vinny
Having done many, many carb removals, there is no quote...easy way..... With the rear box loosened and moved rearward as much as possible (then tightened back down to hold it in place) you then must "waddle" the carbs back to get them out of the forward manifolds. (Obviously, don't forget to loosen the manifold clamps) From that point, you can just twist them downward then to the side to remove, or just force then sideways. The rear boots will collapse to allow them to be removed. Another obvious.....have the control cables disconnected from the carbs. Oh, I almost forgot.... roll the rear boot springs rearward from the carbs.
On a tuff set it rebuilt, I actually had to use a very long and large screwdriver to assist the carbs from the engine boots.
I won't tell you how much fun I had putting the carbs back in!
Bill O
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Re: carb removal
I've done this three times, there is no easy way, but it is doable. I have never had to do anything to the rear air box. Just roll the springs around intake side of carbs back onto the narrow section of rubber intake and leave them there until you remount carbs. Pull carbs out of intakes angle down and remove on right side of bike. I take the throttle cables loose at the adjustment point in front of carbs and leave them in place. The real b_tch is getting them back in the trottle plate when your done, the short cable that comes from the cruise control is a real booger. I've done it so you can too. One of the great things I've found about this bike is you can attack almost anything with simple hand tools. The reason I've had to do three times have always been my fault. First time I left it sit on the side stand for a month or so, bad idea, varish clogged pilot jets, second time didn't use seam foam and pilot jets were clogged after sitting over winter, third time used garden hose to wash and had to replace float bowl gasket,duh. Don't forget to adjust the screws under those plugs, man are they off from the factory. Good Luck
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Re: carb removal
What is a good setting for the pilotjets ? I have heard but don't remember and just never took the time to do it when i did know and also will that throw the sync of the carbs off ?
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Re: carb removal
You need a vacuum gauge to set them correctly.Highway Rider wrote:What is a good setting for the pilotjets ?
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Re: carb removal
I don't know if the carb removal is easier or worse than the ZRX1100 I did a few months back (can't possibly be worse!) but it did test my resolve and my articulation of the English language. One thing I did figure out to make things easier getting them back on was the use of some spray lubricant, I.E WD40 sprayed liberally on the carb boots helped. The hardest part is as they say rolling that spring clip back into place on the interior carbs. It can make a grown man cry.
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Re: carb removal
What? Tell more! I have believed that there isn't any correlation between pilot jets and vacuum.debron wrote:You need a vacuum gauge to set them correctly.Highway Rider wrote:What is a good setting for the pilotjets ?
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Re: carb removal
I would have to agree with Raato--because the pilot jets either control the amount of air or the amount of fuel for the idel circuit from idel ---the slides down-- to just above idel but just under 1/4 throttel where the needel jet takes over or has taken over-- vaccum gages in a layman terms (breif discription) are used set the carb slides to the same hight--- that is my understanding--
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It's not the destination, It's the ride
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Re: carb removal
OK, this could be my bad -- My experience with carbs is more on the automotive side vs. motorcycles back when cars had carbs vs. fuel injection (ok, so that was one or two years ago!) I seem to remember always using a vacuum gauge when adjusting the air/fuel mixture at idle and that might not be what the pilot screw does....
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Re: carb removal
well I found what I was needing and guess what it was on this site under AVA tec center-engine-carb 101
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Jim & Karol
2003 Voyager XII
IBA #57976
IBA 1500 miles in 24 hours
IBA 1500 miles in 36 hours
IBA 1000 miles in 24 hours
It's not the destination, It's the ride
Jim & Karol
2003 Voyager XII
IBA #57976
IBA 1500 miles in 24 hours
IBA 1500 miles in 36 hours
IBA 1000 miles in 24 hours
It's not the destination, It's the ride