Carburator without gasoline
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- jek7galo
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Carburator without gasoline
Hello friends, My bike will not start , why not rise gasoline in the carburator, I checked the fuel pump and she's ok, opening and closing normally. dont know if have trouble in the vacuum system and that can cause this problem. .
someone has a tip to give me ?
Thank you.
someone has a tip to give me ?
Thank you.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
How long has it been since the bike was run? These carbs (especially with todays alcohol-laced gasoline) gum up pretty quickly. What about the fuel filter? What about the air filter? How many miles?
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
I run with the bike almost every day, was 100km to my house, when the engine failed of fuel empty. I think the fuel pump broked but dont is.
3 days before, I installed the new air filter and use only gosoline with 98 octane.
I drained the carbs, but dont out gasoline, I will disassemble the carbs tonight to see if he has dirt
3 days before, I installed the new air filter and use only gosoline with 98 octane.
I drained the carbs, but dont out gasoline, I will disassemble the carbs tonight to see if he has dirt
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
Is the fuel pump actually pumping fuel, Just because it's running don't mean it's pumping.
Also pull the feed line off the fuel filter and see if there is fuel coming out there, there could be something blocking the tank, also check the filter.
I would make sure you have fuel to the carb's before you pull them off and apart.
Also pull the feed line off the fuel filter and see if there is fuel coming out there, there could be something blocking the tank, also check the filter.
I would make sure you have fuel to the carb's before you pull them off and apart.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
yes, I see that have gas to filter and the fuel pump, bat the carbs no have.
I go make a test changing the hose carbs, to a bottle and see the gas flow
I go make a test changing the hose carbs, to a bottle and see the gas flow
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
in the "AVA - Voyager XII Tech Tips" , under the heading "General", there is a section covering the contact points of the fuel pump being stuck and how to repair the stuck contact points.
Just guessing, but if you have fuel to the pump and NO fuel being delivered to the carbs, perhaps this is the problem.
Anyhow, good luck.
Dave
Just guessing, but if you have fuel to the pump and NO fuel being delivered to the carbs, perhaps this is the problem.
Anyhow, good luck.
Dave
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
thank Dave, not yet found, but I'm looking for.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
http://www.amervoyassoc.org/techtipsXII.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , then click on the "General" heading and scroll down and click on "OEM fuel pump point reconditioning".
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
Sounds like there is a blockage or kink in the fuel line between the fuel filter and the carbs. I would start at the carbs and work backward to the fuel filter.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
Yesterday, I make engine start and within seconds begin a large pool of gasoline in the ground, and I see that coming from the hose carbs. (so is I was without gas )
Disassembling the carbs and make test to injecting gas with a bottle and i see that the leak is coming from the junction the carbs.
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Disassembling the carbs and make test to injecting gas with a bottle and i see that the leak is coming from the junction the carbs.
look
friends, thank you for all, helped me very much
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
That pool was probably caused by the float valve sticking on one or more of the carbs. When the float sticks the fuel once the bowl is filled with spill out through the over flow ports into the drain hoses that exit down through the frame of the bike.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
Good Jensee, I changed the gasket to tube junction and a review general to the carbs, disassembled all, compressed air in the internal tubes, cleaning inside, outside , bowls, float, valves, etc.
tonight I assemble and tomorrow road test.
thank
tonight I assemble and tomorrow road test.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
After assembly the carbs, the gasoline leak now is in the drain hose. I believe that is the fuel pump that don't pause and directly injecting.
I threw the towel , I took the bike in my mechanic to test te fuel pump and synchronize the carbs.
I threw the towel , I took the bike in my mechanic to test te fuel pump and synchronize the carbs.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
.....Yes jek galo, It CAN be a bit frustrating to do all of that work,and not get the desired results !
but at least you went in and gave it a try for yourself .... and probably learned a thing or two,and NOW know your bike alot better than before !...........tony
but at least you went in and gave it a try for yourself .... and probably learned a thing or two,and NOW know your bike alot better than before !...........tony
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
I am having the same problem with some carb's on a Voyager I am putting together.
The gas is just running out the drain holes on the bottom of the carb's.
I went over them, the float needles and seats look good and set the floats.
I thought the fuel pump was the problem but I put my finger over the outlet and i can stop the pump.
I am thinking the rubber on the needles is to hard to seal.
I have new ones ordered and e will see what happens.
The gas is just running out the drain holes on the bottom of the carb's.
I went over them, the float needles and seats look good and set the floats.
I thought the fuel pump was the problem but I put my finger over the outlet and i can stop the pump.
I am thinking the rubber on the needles is to hard to seal.
I have new ones ordered and e will see what happens.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
it is almost always the needles. i never open a set of carbs without replacing the needles. the OEMs are quite costly but the K&L needles work great at a fraction of the cost of OEMs. i also polish the seats with semi-chrome, i try to get them shiny enough to comb my hair in the reflection. be sure to use the hangers from the original needles, the K&L hangers will cause float stickage.
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
Hola Amigos,
I caught the bike yesterday, the mechanic said that is the float fixed, when I open carbs, was all apparently normal, but he cleaned the valves and synchronized the carbs ..
Today it rains here, even so I came up with the bike to test. This perfect . I need test the bike because in friday I will road 2.000 km
I'm already sleepless, crazy to the travel..
thank by share to all .. to every day i love more this bike
I caught the bike yesterday, the mechanic said that is the float fixed, when I open carbs, was all apparently normal, but he cleaned the valves and synchronized the carbs ..
Today it rains here, even so I came up with the bike to test. This perfect . I need test the bike because in friday I will road 2.000 km
I'm already sleepless, crazy to the travel..
thank by share to all .. to every day i love more this bike
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Re: Carburator without gasoline
I put new needles in polished the seats and that fixed the problemchevyman1 wrote:I am having the same problem with some carb's on a Voyager I am putting together.
The gas is just running out the drain holes on the bottom of the carb's.
I went over them, the float needles and seats look good and set the floats.
I thought the fuel pump was the problem but I put my finger over the outlet and i can stop the pump.
I am thinking the rubber on the needles is to hard to seal.
I have new ones ordered and e will see what happens.
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