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need help
Yesterday traveled fron Virginia to louisville to a friends. As i got into louisville the dfi warning light came on. I immediately went to side of road shut bike off, fired back up light was gone so drove last 20 miles to their house, got liaded up this morning to go onto missouri bije started then stalled. Now will not start. It turns over but either wont ignite or makes loud grinding noise
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Re: need help
My first thought is fuel pump.
Can you hear the pump when you turn the key on?
I had a similiar problem many years ago and found the Start relay had gone bad. I switched it with the headlight relay and got the bike home.
Not sure about the grinding noise.
Can you hear the pump when you turn the key on?
I had a similiar problem many years ago and found the Start relay had gone bad. I switched it with the headlight relay and got the bike home.
Not sure about the grinding noise.
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Re: need help
Is it turning over at the proper speed,as if the battery is up to proper voltage? If the battery voltage is low, that could account for starter relay pulsing in and out,making a buzzing sound,and also not giving enough voltage to start the engine.
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Re: need help
Battery is fine and once i get it to start and idle more than enough to take off, rest of day good to go. But first push of button it starts then stalls then only way will restartbis with throttle twisted at least 50% while hitting start button. Until monday i never touched throttle just uit button let the mistress purr and warm up
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Re: need help
1st suggestion: Sounds like one or more of your injectors is stuck partially open, causing it to flood on start, requiring a wider throttle position for extra air to compensate. Does it blow black smoke when i first fires up like that? Leaking injectors is a fairly common problem with 1300s that have sat a while. Running a heavy dose of Seafoam in the fuel usually helps this issue after two or three tanks of fuel.
2nd suggestion: A more far fetched cause would be if the TPS has been moved and not correctly reset, it will tell the DFI controller the wrong amount (like, NONE) of fuel until you crank the throttle open enough to tell it to feed more fuel, but that would also mean it should be running very lean when riding.
3rd suggestion: These fuel injection systems use a separate engine temp sensor to tell the DFI whether or not to increase fuel delivery for cold start. Your sensor could be faulty. I used to know what to look for from the sensor at cold, and then when hot, but I forget right now.
2nd suggestion: A more far fetched cause would be if the TPS has been moved and not correctly reset, it will tell the DFI controller the wrong amount (like, NONE) of fuel until you crank the throttle open enough to tell it to feed more fuel, but that would also mean it should be running very lean when riding.
3rd suggestion: These fuel injection systems use a separate engine temp sensor to tell the DFI whether or not to increase fuel delivery for cold start. Your sensor could be faulty. I used to know what to look for from the sensor at cold, and then when hot, but I forget right now.
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Re: need help
I have got back home to virginia now rest of my journey, first startvof day was a bit rough witthe procedure above wouldn't be too bad, rest of day, like a champ. Last 2 days not so, 1st start is taking 15 min to fire up and rest of day hit n miss
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Re: need help
Sometimes it boils down to going step-by-step through each system and check for weaknesses. On these older bikes a string of partial failures can build into a poor running engine.
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Re: need help
When i turn key and push button i gett what u see in video most of time. Clicking even goes for bit after i release starter button. Sometimes when i turn key on DFI light comes on if so just clicking no sound like trying to start?. Turn ignition off and back on dfi light gone. Battery is at 12 volts and fully charged
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Re: need help
Ok found code in my dfi computer 2 long 3 short. Ignition Pulse |No ignition pulses are transmitted to control unit when cranking engine. | 2 long 3 short | Perform "Engine Speed Signal Test. and inspect ignition system damage. What does this indicate i should test or check?