Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
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Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
Rode to a friends house yesterday when I left, I stopped to get a burger. When I got back onto the highway the bike wouldn't shift past 3rd gear and lever felt tight but no longer springy. Got off at the first exit approx. 3 miles down and took the back way home. Once off the interstate once I shifted back to first It wouldn't go past 2nd gear. At times it would slip out of second and back into neutral. Anybody have any ideas? I am thinking something in the shift linkage broke but what I don't know. Inspected it last night without pulling the left side cover off and the linkage appears to be intact. I am thinking one of the springs of which I count 4 may have broken. I never shift hard but that doesn't mean one wouldn't snap. All those parts on the outside of the crankcase appear to be available. Today I will open the case and see what may be broken or damaged. If anyone has any ideas or can help please feel free to chime in. Thanks.
Never fun to ride home 9 miles in second gear running the engine up 4500 grand just to maintain 40 mph.
Never fun to ride home 9 miles in second gear running the engine up 4500 grand just to maintain 40 mph.
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- Mr Jensee
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift
Looking at the service manual. There is an external shift linkage I can remove and examine. If that turns up without damage then I will call Carl. I don't have what it takes to remove and split an engine.
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
Could a broken spring in the shift drum ratchet give those symptoms?
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
Next Saturday I am loading the bike up and taking it to my friend Tom's house and we are going to open up the transfer case to see if the shift linkage is busted there. If it isn't neither he nor I want to pull the engine to open it up to do repairs to the transmission. IF that ends up the case then my riding days are over. The bike will be sold for what I can get for it because at this point I don't have the money to put into removing and opening the transmission. Sorry but this is the way it is. There comes a time when everything must end.
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
... askin" the Best for a simple and good fix! Best to Ya!!!!!
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
We certainly hope you find something simple,we do not want this to cause you to stop riding Let us knowMr Jensee wrote:Next Saturday I am loading the bike up and taking it to my friend Tom's house and we are going to open up the transfer case to see if the shift linkage is busted there. If it isn't neither he nor I want to pull the engine to open it up to do repairs to the transmission. IF that ends up the case then my riding days are over. The bike will be sold for what I can get for it because at this point I don't have the money to put into removing and opening the transmission. Sorry but this is the way it is. There comes a time when everything must end.
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
When I first got my Voyager on the ride home, I was having shifting problems. It was rough at times going up through the gears and even harder to go down through the gears. I ended up having to do some creative toe work for the 700 mile ride home to work the shifter as it was acting like a shifter return spring wasn't working so if I down shifted, I had to gently pull up on the shifter before I could shift again. If I upshifted, it was not as bad but sometimes I had to gently work the shifter back to the middle position.
I took it to Carl thinking I had a problem in the transmission and it turned out that the shifter needed to be pulled out of its holder, cleaned well, and greased. Once that was done, it returned fine and has been working flawlessly for the last 22,000 miles.
Hope your issue is that easy.
I took it to Carl thinking I had a problem in the transmission and it turned out that the shifter needed to be pulled out of its holder, cleaned well, and greased. Once that was done, it returned fine and has been working flawlessly for the last 22,000 miles.
Hope your issue is that easy.
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
I hope it is an easy fix. Contacted Carl and he has agreed to walk us through the removal and reinstall of that cover plate. I am hoping for an easy fix. Will know something by the end of next Sunday.
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
Mr.Jensee,I hope you have found a simple solution to your shifting problem Let us know.
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- Mr Jensee
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
I promised I would keep everyone concerned apprized as to the status of what we found. Well the verdict is in. Nothing that I hoped was wrong panned out. Looks like the problem is deep inside the transmission. Tom and I were on the phone with Carl while Tom was disassembling the shift mechanism. He was immensely helpful walking us through the removal of the drive shaft as well as the starter which we didn't realize had to come off. However the bike is still broken. Carl offered to repair if I can get it to him. This is a set of logistics I am going to have to overcome. The soonest I can deliver it to him would be January. I have a buddy who recently married and moved to the east coast of Florida about 30 miles from Carl. We should be able to stay with them the week it would take to have Carl remove the engine and make the repairs. However I need to have my dialysis unit find and contact one or more units near my friend who by the way is also named Leo, to make arrangements for treatments. I will be working on the options the next couple of months but as I see it now either Carl works on it for a reasonable fee or let it go. I want to be positive and look to getting it fixed. This hasn't been a good month. My company disability payments ended October first because I turned 65. That will be a significant drop in income. Last Thursday my central heater didn't come on, had to have the circuit board replaced. Only $685. Wasn't expecting that one. Now the bike. Maybe I could do an online telethon. Just kidding. God's been unusually good to me these last few years. I have to believe it will work out. Thanks for all the concern though. I appreciate it.
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
I have also been praying that you can get it going again.
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
I am working with dialysis to set up 3 days of service in early January at a location near Carl Leo. If Carl is good with that we will head out the 5th for Daytona after treatment that morning. Planning to stay with friends in Palm Coast about 35 min. north of there. This will give Carl a week to do the work if it all works out right. I would not trust the bike to anyone here locally to do the job right. If it all goes well I am still on for the Rally in Kerrville in June.
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
I am just too stubborn to give up too easily!
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Re: Need some advice Voyager wont shift (edited)
Thank you for not giving up we hope to see you soon!Mr Jensee wrote:I am just too stubborn to give up too easily!
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