Starter Clutch replacememnt
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- shesseltine86
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Starter Clutch replacememnt
has anyone ever changed out the starter clutch? I downloaded the manual and it appears that i have to remove the engine?
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
already started, downloaded the manual and printed off the needed pages! I appreciate having a forum like this to help with a 30 year old bike!!!
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
it's a big job, good luck with your project . one thing is for sure.... you'll definitely know your new bike thoroughly by the time your done !
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
Mark all the plugs and take lots of pictures especially harness routing. Had mine out for transmission problems and really appreciated the pictures on reassembly. Good luck
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
scott, on an 86 i would be willing to bet a case of beer you will need a starter chain and tensioner, not a starter clutch....been there almost 100 times.....
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
Thanks guys, I will have the engine out tomorrow, thanks for the advice on the chain!
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
Here are the symptoms, most of the time you just hear the starter spin and it does not engage, if you put the bike in gear and rock it back and forth, you can get it to catch occasionallyshesseltine86 wrote:Thanks guys, I will have the engine out tomorrow, thanks for the advice on the chain!
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
Got the clutch out and it's definitely bad! Anything else I should look for while I'm waiting for parts to come?
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
AWE....c'mon Scott ! ....your just saying the starter clutch is bad, to get a FREE case of beer from Carl !
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he only needs to let me know what he prefers and where to send it......carl
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
No beer required! Thanks for the input!
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
Have you looked to see what Igniter model your '86 has? if its part number 21119-1179 change it immediately before you do break the starter chain (over-advancing the ignition timing). You want part number 21119-1248
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
Thanks for the heads up!!Tonyvdb wrote:Have you looked to see what Igniter model your '86 has? if its part number 21119-1179 change it immediately before you do break the starter chain (over-advancing the ignition timing). You want part number 21119-1248
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
I do have the good one, and a spare from the parts bike i picked up, thanks for the heads up!shesseltine86 wrote:Thanks for the heads up!!Tonyvdb wrote:Have you looked to see what Igniter model your '86 has? if its part number 21119-1179 change it immediately before you do break the starter chain (over-advancing the ignition timing). You want part number 21119-1248
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
When I put this back together, any recommendations on what to use between the upper and lower cases of the transmission?
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
Kawasaki recommends the use of "Kawasaki Bond" here.
But I think at $50. a tube you could use another high temp silicone from your local auto parts store would do .
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I just checked, and here is the Kawasaki product on amazon for around 20 bucks, cheaper than at bike shops,but this is the small 2.5 oz. tube.
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But I think at $50. a tube you could use another high temp silicone from your local auto parts store would do .
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I just checked, and here is the Kawasaki product on amazon for around 20 bucks, cheaper than at bike shops,but this is the small 2.5 oz. tube.
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
I have used something called (3 bound 1184 liquid gasket) I got it at Off Road Motorsports, A dealer near me.
Any motorcycle shop should have it, I don't think I payed much for it less then $10 for a tube.
Any motorcycle shop should have it, I don't think I payed much for it less then $10 for a tube.
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
I've been using Permatex Ultra Gray RTV, used for things like auto transmission cases. Still seals when spread very thin. Certainly is cheaper than Yamabond. Also works on forming gaskets for model airplane engines and joining lawnmower case halves.
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Re: Starter Clutch replacememnt
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help! I know how to spin wrenches, but I've never torn a motorcycle apart this far. I was surprised by how thin the spring was inside the starter clutch was.
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