Car tire site admits it works.

Post by **gearheadfla** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:00 pm

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/4/prweb9448044.htm

Post by **Mr Jensee** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:42 pm

well, enjoy. I'm not risking my life on it.

Post by **Lucasind** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:17 pm

if your a guy with multiple bikes,, you could fit one to a bike you rarely use, and do. some,testing/evaluation.but keep ur " go to bike " as is.

Post by **gearheadfla** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:57 pm

Mr Jensee wrote:well, enjoy. I'm not risking my life on it.

Trust me, I wouldn't risk mine or Lori's life on it either if there was something take didn't feel or work right, That being said, with almost 5000 k on it now, sun, rain, driving rain, draggin peg curves, in town, highway at 85mph and panic stops to avoided white Buicks, it's still on the bike and love every mile of it.

Post by **Mr Jensee** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:36 pm

I only have one bike now and don't get to ride it much anymore, health reasons mostly. The idea of a car tire on it scares the bejesus out of me.

Post by **David (N. Alabama)** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:35 pm

A guy on one of the Vulcan forums is on his 4th car tire. There are tires he did not like at all and the tires that he said feel more like a motorcycle tire only last 20k miles. I recall the recent tire is a Hankook.

Post by **Mr Jensee** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:09 am

gearheadfla wrote:
Mr Jensee wrote:well, enjoy. I'm not risking my life on it.
Trust me, I wouldn't risk mine or Lori's life on it either if there was something take didn't feel or work right, That being said, with almost 5000 k on it now, sun, rain, driving rain, draggin peg curves, in town, highway at 85mph and panic stops to avoided white Buicks, it's still on the bike and love every mile of it.

I know, you all swear by them. I just happen to come from the school of logic that says that car tires and motorcycle tires are vehicle specific. The tires design was for different purposes and dynamics. Trust and feelings are great but they don't compete with logic. I will stick to what is tried and true. Good luck with your decisions.

Post by **Me Again** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:19 am

. I just happen to come from the school of logic that says that car tires and motorcycle tires are vehicle specific. The tires design was for different purposes and dynamics. Trust and feelings are great but they don't compete with logic. I will stick to what is tried and true. Good luck with your decisions.[/quote]

If you really believed that ,you would not be working on an oil rig in the middle of the ocean.I also think that car tires may be a bad idea ,but,there is enough evidence out there to at least give them some consideration .

Post by **Mr Jensee** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:19 pm

For one I don't work in the middle of the ocean, I am stationed 12 miles off the coast of Louisiana on Platform that used to produce natural gas. The water here is 34 ft. deep and we are 8 minutes from land by helicopter. This facility is a staging area for production personnel who go out to keep oil and gas pumping so folks like you can ride on car tires made from oil and do reckless things that I would not. Not illogical at all.

Post by **jn1200** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:38 pm

If all people thought like you, we'd still be pushing a square wheel around

Mr Jensee wrote:For one I don't work in the middle of the ocean, I am stationed 12 miles off the coast of Louisiana on Platform that used to produce natural gas. The water here is 34 ft. deep and we are 8 minutes from land by helicopter. This facility is a staging area for production personnel who go out to keep oil and gas pumping so folks like you can ride on car tires made from oil and do reckless things that I would not. Not illogical at all.

Post by **Lucasind** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:28 pm

Com'on guy's.... play nice !

Post by **mountainman** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:07 am

Wow! This is like one of those who has the best oil posts.

Maybe we should get the Government involved, and let them tell us what tires to use?

Post by **David (N. Alabama)** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:41 am

Here is what Dunlop (who makes car and motorcycle tires) says about it.

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/info-center/faq/

Can I use a car tire on the back of my motorcycle?

No. The design of automotive tires and motorcycle tires are very different. The profile of automotive and motorcycle rims are different with a different bead seating area. An automotive tire will not seat properly on a motorcycle rim, making it more susceptible to problems such as rim slip, which can cause balance problems.

Motorcycles are designed specifically with a unique tread profile for leaning over when cornering. Under emergency or extreme maneuvering conditions, an automotive tire on a motorcycle may not allow the bike to handle as it was intended, which can lead to accident, injury or death.

Sport bike riders wear out tires in 2,000 to 4,000 miles and I have not seen a single sport bike rider talk about putting a car tire on their bikes.

Post by **gearheadfla** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:27 am

http://youtu.be/NYhkCA_JwJM
http://youtu.be/Xi1shYlklFM
Ninja ZX-14 That's a sport bike

Post by **Mr Jensee** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:01 am

I would not stop any of you doing whatever you want to do to your motorcycle. Personally I have been riding off and on since 1966 and prefer my motorcycles to be as close to OEM as possible. Call me crazy, but it is what I prefer. I have never experimented with tires, handlebars, wheels or suspensions. The Voyager is the first bike I ever owned that I put progressive springs and shocks on. I did change out the seat on the ZRX1100 to a Sargent saddle but that's as radical as I got. I nearly got killed as a teenager jumping a railroad crossing on my Yamaha and missed being hit by a train at 2 in the morning. Since then I figured it better not to tempt fate and stay away from experimentations. So far life has been kind, at least as far as motorcycling is concerned. I have survived some minor crashes with only a couple broken bones and minor damage to my bikes in my 60 years. As it looks now I won't see retirement due to some severe health issues but I intend to hang in there as long as I can. Whatever time I have left will be with the intent to enjoy it and not to do anything more wreckless than I need to. Enjoy your car tires. Enjoy whatever you do. Remember that it won't last forever and be thankful for what you have. I will be rooting for you even if it's just from the sidelines.

Post by **mountainman** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:15 am

After watching the videos on the first one if you watch the bikes rear area and keep your focus off the tire you will see anything but smooth transition when bike goes into and out of corners. Sort of what I feel when my rear tire is worn bad and is squared off across its center. Me I love the feel of a new set of motorcycle tires because I don't like the minor transition problems that come from worn mc tires.
It basically comes down to engineering of the tire to me and I fall on the side of Dunlop's statement. Trust the engineers is my opinion. I would never ever consider this with my wife on the back. I don't think I could live with myself in the event of failure. I do not think its a terrible thing to do, it just comes down to if you can handle all that comes with it or not.
The second video of the tire only, shows half of its contact patch in a corner is on the sidewall of the tire. Not for me, at least not anytime soon that I can see! mike

Post by **gearheadfla** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:18 am

Mr Jensee wrote:I would not stop any of you doing whatever you want to do to your motorcycle. Personally I have been riding off and on since 1966 and prefer my motorcycles to be as close to OEM as possible. Call me crazy, but it is what I prefer. I have never experimented with tires, handlebars, wheels or suspensions. The Voyager is the first bike I ever owned that I put progressive springs and shocks on. I did change out the seat on the ZRX1100 to a Sargent saddle but that's as radical as I got. I nearly got killed as a teenager jumping a railroad crossing on my Yamaha and missed being hit by a train at 2 in the morning. Since then I figured it better not to tempt fate and stay away from experimentations. So far life has been kind, at least as far as motorcycling is concerned. I have survived some minor crashes with only a couple broken bones and minor damage to my bikes in my 60 years. As it looks now I won't see retirement due to some severe health issues but I intend to hang in there as long as I can. Whatever time I have left will be with the intent to enjoy it and not to do anything more wreckless than I need to. Enjoy your car tires. Enjoy whatever you do. Remember that it won't last forever and be thankful for what you have. I will be rooting for you even if it's just from the sidelines.

At the end of the day, It's all the same wind, no matter what you ride.

Post by **Lucasind** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:41 am

good post gearhead ! that's" stirring the old pot" that led to a good spirited debate ! p.s. i like ur closing statement.

Post by **David (N. Alabama)** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:40 pm

gearheadfla wrote:http://youtu.be/NYhkCA_JwJM
http://youtu.be/Xi1shYlklFM
Ninja ZX-14 That's a sport bike

The first vid is a triumph rocket cruiser. He is stating that the car tires are only lasting 10,000 to 13,000 miles on his bike. I've gotten 16,000 miles out of motorcycle tires on my Voyager 1700.

Don't know what bike the the vid that says it is a ZX14 really is since he thinks it has a 1530cc engine. It has a 1441cc engine.
That video is scary. talk about getting on the edge of the tire! Whoever is piloting that bike is leaning over the yellow line as well.

These darkside threads remind me of someone buying a Porsche or Corvette and buying knockoff tires from Walmart. Not saying I won't ever put a car tire on the back of my motorcycle. Might find myself in a town with a flat rear tire and only car tire shops in town. If I do, it will be a high performance tire with sticky rubber and a rounded profile.

Here is a quote from a Vulcan 2000 rider:

Braz;106030 wrote:Being on my 4th car tire here are my insights. I run a softer compund for my agressive style, so I don't get the 20K plus out of mine. I also look for a tire with rounded edges, that makes a WORLD of difference in side to side transitioning. AND the rounded edges don't make the tire want to "drop" off of road imperfections. I have ran an Altimax, a Cooper Zeon 2XS and a Cooper Sport A/S before the current Hankook V2 Concept, my impressions are this: You could not pay me to run another altimax, or a triple tread for that matter, my buddy had one(TT) and he changed after he rode mine with a Cooper. The Altimax was too square and to hard for me, the feeling of falling off each side in transitions was more pronounced on this tire than any of the others. Both Coopers were good tires, handled very good but no matter what I kept the air pressure at they wore quickly in the center, so I tried the latest the Hankook, and WOW, I am not jerking your chain when I say I can not tell it is a car tire. It also has the wildest rain pattern with turned grooves that are amazing, it flat out handles like no tomorrow. How it wears is yet to be seen but so far I am diggin it. Those are just my impressions, thought I would share. Ride Safe BRAZ

Post by **dmwoost** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:31 pm

I tried to install a CT on my XII rim and could not get it to seat up so I just went back to MT. It went on the rim we put 100LBS of air in and it would not pop after working on it for a week. said for get it. Happy with my MT.

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