Need some clutch help!
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Need some clutch help!
I replaced my clutch plates and springs. First time ever with the help of some service diagrams. Now I barely have any throw on my clutch lever. Feels locked up. I’m assuming I have to remove the case to readjust, but I’m not sure where to do the adjustment. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Need some clutch help!
Hello, woodsm84.
Did you replace, flush,and bleed your clutch fluid.
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If you did and the fluid went through the master cylinder,line, and the bleeder ok,I am going to guess that one of the discs got indexed wrong and you cannot compress the pack properly.
There is no adjustment on the clutch as it adjusts hydraulically as you use it.
Please let us know what you find out
Did you replace, flush,and bleed your clutch fluid.

If you did and the fluid went through the master cylinder,line, and the bleeder ok,I am going to guess that one of the discs got indexed wrong and you cannot compress the pack properly.
There is no adjustment on the clutch as it adjusts hydraulically as you use it.
Please let us know what you find out

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Re: Need some clutch help!
I’m thinking it has to be the indexing like you said. I did a full bleed/flush. Looks like I’ll be redoing this one
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Re: Need some clutch help!
Definitely will. I’m going to reorder plates and springs. I’m not sure if I need to adjust anything at the basket. Basically, last time, I drained the motor, pulled the basket cover, replaced and oiled new disks and springs, then put it all together. Then nothing on the lever throw. Not sure which rookie mistake, but I’m sure it’s there.
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Re: Need some clutch help!
Sounds like you didn't index the first plate (last one you put in) - it doesn't go in the same slots as the rest. There is nothing to adjust.
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Re: Need some clutch help!
GrandpaDenny,I would agree with you 

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Re: Need some clutch help!
Here’s a photo of it as I was putting it back together. Not sure if you can identify anything?GrandpaDenny wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:04 pm Sounds like you didn't index the first plate (last one you put in) - it doesn't go in the same slots as the rest. There is nothing to adjust.
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Re: Need some clutch help!
ok the indexing looks good near as I can tell. It all looks good. When you say "hardly any throw", what exactly do you mean? Does the clutch disengage almost immediately when pulling the lever, or does it engage almost immediately when releasing, or does the friction zone seem tighter than before?
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Re: Need some clutch help!
It moves about 1/4 inch and stops dead at that point. When I was bleeding the clutch afterwards, my master cylinder was shooting brake fluid in the air if I squeezed too quickly. As soon as I close the bleeder line at the slave cylinder, I have no throw. Have I over torqued the pressure plate springs maybe?GrandpaDenny wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:49 pm ok the indexing looks good near as I can tell. It all looks good. When you say "hardly any throw", what exactly do you mean? Does the clutch disengage almost immediately when pulling the lever, or does it engage almost immediately when releasing, or does the friction zone seem tighter than before?
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Re: Need some clutch help!
That's normal, and a good sign - it means the master cylinder equalizing port is not plugged.
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Re: Need some clutch help!
woodsm84,I was wondering what you have accomplished on your clutch?
We have not heard from you for a couple days.

We have not heard from you for a couple days.

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Re: Need some clutch help!
Fixed!!!!!!! One disc, one plate too many. Never trust parts from eBay. I did everything correctly, unfortunately the parts vendor did not. Thanks so much for everyone’s helpcushman eagle wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:16 pm woodsm84,I was wondering what you have accomplished on your clutch?![]()
We have not heard from you for a couple days.![]()
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Re: Need some clutch help!
Thank you for the good news,woodsm84
It is always good to hear of a successful,easy fix

It is always good to hear of a successful,easy fix

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Re: Need some clutch help!
I think you have some clutch plates that are wrong. Measure the thickness of your old plates, then Measure your new plates. Now you'll find that the old metal plates might be thinner. Now Measure the old clutch pack vs the new clutch pack. You want the new clutch pack to be just a little thicker then the old.
Why are you changing your clutch. Is the clutch slipping when you try to accelerate in the higher gears? If so you might have broken spyder springs, which are at the back of the clutch basket.
Why are you changing your clutch. Is the clutch slipping when you try to accelerate in the higher gears? If so you might have broken spyder springs, which are at the back of the clutch basket.
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Re: Need some clutch help!
It turned out to be exactly what you said about the plates! Thanks!HMB Don wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:50 pm I think you have some clutch plates that are wrong. Measure the thickness of your old plates, then Measure your new plates. Now you'll find that the old metal plates might be thinner. Now Measure the old clutch pack vs the new clutch pack. You want the new clutch pack to be just a little thicker then the old.
Why are you changing your clutch. Is the clutch slipping when you try to accelerate in the higher gears? If so you might have broken spyder springs, which are at the back of the clutch basket.